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I’m attempting cartwheels over this essay. Geordie, you’ve opened a playground of thought!

In Eastern patristic thought, rhetoric is not primarily epistemic (changing what you think) or volitional (changing what you choose). It is ontological. Speech participates in being. Words don’t merely influence decisions; they reshape what exists between speaker and hearer. This runs through Logos theology (John 1), the Cappadocians, and Maximus the Confessor’s account of the logoi of creation. (+more)

Your account treats rhetoric as primarily epistemic and volitional: shaping belief, framing choice, engineering agency while preserving formal freedom. That maps cleanly onto Milton’s Satan, whose sin is not lying but authoring a frame while refusing responsibility for its effects. (Agreed.) But this is where the West has (theologically) reduced rhetoric to mechanism.

The ethical/biblical question is not “did they choose freely?” but “what kind of reality did this speech bring into existence?” From that angle, Satan’s rhetoric is ontologically parasitic. He cannot create. He can only rearrange meanings. He reframes legitimacy but never heals being. Consequently, his persuasion requires inevitability narratives, urgency, false freedom, and/or moral outsourcing. Jesus speaks in a way that changes reality without closing choice and then absorbs the consequences of that speech himself. People walk away constantly. Not because the rhetoric fails, but because refusal is ethically preserved. Crucifixion is the ultimate refusal to launder influence.

You essentially asked the reader - what if responsibility is measured not by consent or disclosure, but by whether the speaker is willing to carry the cost of what their words make possible?

That contrast is severely underexplored, and seems relevant to how we think about leadership, design, and public influence, etc etc. If you keep playing with the idea, I suspect more people will be doing cartwheels.

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